Posts by Mr. Kim

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

KGB,

My Last post was not directed at Gumby -persay!. It is a statement of thought dealing with me and the Gods.....Soon to be a movie!---can't wait till that check comes in!

Mr. KIM

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

Gumby,

Keep an on me? It is better to watch world events. Then you will know what really is important to people. The line of division has already began.

An epiphany of thought. I had to learn the hard way. That is: "Don't anger the Gods, Kim"! Oh no, I had to prove something. Well, guess who was wrong? It was me. I am just now starting to regain my rightful place.

Soon! Soon! Soon!

Mr. KIM

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

DannyBear,

Revert back? I never left!

Or was that a right turn?

Oh, hell! I'M LOST!!!!!

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Gumby,

It's cool. Have a good week!

Mr. KIM

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

Gumby,

Thought you had thick skin? Can't you take some "ribbing?" Just funning with ya! Geeze-o-lee! We still love you! Pushing buttons now and then keeps people alive and awake as at times, the old hum drum SSDD takes affect. (SSDD=Same shit different day) .

Shallow? Oh, come on. That really did hurt! I do "see" a great deal more than what I say or talk about. I just don't want the ridicule and hassle that goes along with the territory. So, Just a little here and there!

You are a good person and have progressed nicely over the last three years.-(how did I know that?) As a "watcher" you should know that the world is a complicated place and the people in it are the most unconventional lot around the subjects discussed on this forum.

And as you have expressed, in many places people are killing and torturing each other for a variety of reasons including religion, -death and destruction is an everyday act of life. -- I know this bothers you.

People are the proverbial "something else" and they do need direction for the safety of everyone.

You still drink coffee? (Just guessing of course.-or am I?) Keep working and paying those taxes----the Government needs them to keep us broke and under control.

Have a nice day Gumby and if you are ever in Colorado, You and your family are ALWAYS welcome!

Mr. KIM

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Jehovah's Witnesses Are Under Mind Control

by minimus in

jw
friends

if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".

it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.

how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?

Mr. Kim

Most JWs need more to wake up!!!!!!!

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

Gumby, Gumby, Gumby,

OOOOOOOH WHAT YOU SAID: OK ....man did. Now what? He is going to let all of mankind suffer cuz they screwed up? Then he's not real bright is he?

The reason why you cannot understand and why you "cannot see" is obvious. You have made your choice before you ever posted on this forum years ago.

Your heart-felt disrespect to GOD and those that believe in a God is of course, your choice. A crying shame---

As I have been told, "do not cast pearls before swine." I think that is pretty good advice. So, I shall be good and say, "have a nice day."

Good by,

Mr. Kim

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

Gumby,
You ask how we know there is a God? Would we "ever" know there is a God if we were never told there was one? What factual evidence that proves there is a God?

This is really old stuff and books have been written on each question in one form or another. Rehashing is somewhat boring. However, briefly, to add more confusion and bewilderment to the subject.........Keeping everything as simplistic as possible invoking thought and ???

The RAW Stuff or is it truth? ------Mankind is very smart and clever and should be proud of the many accomplishments. However, what is the business plan? Interesting question, huh?

I answer you by stating --- We are what we know in proportion to what we reveal and live to be according to our gifts and by our contribution to the society in which we live. Not very simple start is it? Now this could change based on several mitigating factors. Which will not be discussed here at this time.

You ask how we know there is a God? I ask, can you prove there is not one? Look around you. Pick any object you see. Chances are (within your own capabilities) you can probably make the same thing given the same materials. That object did not "evolve" by itself or fly together from some explosion. Some intelligent force independent of everything else made it into a functional, useful--whatever. Take the living organism. Take plane old dirt and make a living organism. Can't, can you? A little bit out of your abilities? Of course it is. It is way too complex to form without "something else," besides millions and millions of years sliding by on the scale of time. To say otherwise is scientific BS! Just try and make dirt! Can't, can you?

Would we "ever" know there is a God if we were never told there was one? Good question. If we were taught to think and ask questions, yes we would. The obvious question: Is this life all there is? Looking at the "facts" involving Science, which in most meaningful cases are extremely complex and beyond the scope of most lay people,......Oh yes! Stumbling blocks and the "unexplainable" is often white washed over to cover-up the inability to prove something in the laboratory. So, if it can't be repeated, used, controlled, reformed, made money from it,......get rid of it! Don't want to look "unwise," foolish or one of those supernatural "believers." It is done all the time at the top levels of research and when it comes to funding the programs, controllable facts only please. If Mankind does not control it, throw it out. Don't upset the status quo.

What factual evidence that proves there is a God? Covered some of that above. Look at the creations all around you. From people, mountains, planets, stars, etc.. You really think this stuff just appeared without being directed or designed by some complex action or force? Look around you. Look at dirt.(a fixation on dirt?) Can you make dirt? Why not? Put your hands into a vacuum chamber and form dirt from "nothing." Can't, can you? Why not? If a hundred billion years went by, could you then make dirt? Of course not- (you won't live that long). There must be something else of greater power beyond our understanding acting for a purpose to achieve an end.

What about the interesting quotes from these people:

"Either you think-or else others have to think for you and take power from you, pervert and discipline your natural tastes, civilize and sterilize you.
F. Scott Fitzgerald

Or what about this one?

"Words should not be withheld from the worthy, but the unworthy will be annoyed by the words of real men. The hearts of the unworthy and those who are alienated from reality are like wicks that have been drenched in water instead of oil. No matter how much fire you put to such a wick it will not burn."
Shihab al-Din al-Suhrawardi
The Mystical and Visionary Treatises

Did any quote above form by itself or by chance? Or was it organized to put forth a statement and thought which was conceived by a human being? A higher force perhaps?

Having fun: Or, did dirt do it? Maybe dirt is pretty smart after all and we just don't know it yet. What have we been missing? Should we talk to dirt? If dirt talks back, should we stop the use of drugs or alcohol or both? What if we like what dirt says?

Spiritually speaking of course:"Facts are what we believe by observing reality combined with our personal experience which are inculcated into our very fiber and is not limited to the simple physical laws that in trap the common everyday person. Facts are burned into our deepest personality which only the "Sovereign One" can read and judge us by our secret conscience, and our burning desire to know and to be part of a glory beyond comprehension." --- Mr. Kim

Didn't the Bible say something like: "Only the foolish one says there is no Jehovah."You can substitute GOD for Jehovah if you wish. The meaning is the same........

Laters, (Tired of having fun)

MR. KIM

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

SaintSatan,

Not a problem. "Higher lifeforms" gota stick together.

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

DannyBear,

I did not mean to imply that YOU did not believe in GOD. I know you do. Sorry for that misunderstanding.

You said:

It is the wanton disrespect shown by 'the true believer's' who espouse their version of 'faith' as the only 'way' to salvation, that offends me.

The need for them to make up all sorts of exuses for their god of the bible, is pathetic and less than inspiring.

My Response:

I agree with you. Paths are chosen all of the time. Most people chose what "feels good" for them. The choice could be wrong or could be right. We can only work with the knowledge we have access to in the various forms. Many people use the Bible as a source of information about God, angels, etc. Some people do not. Others will chose something else.

The big question is, what is real and factual? Hard decisions when everyone is running around making claims and counterclaims etc. What can a person do? Many people become sick and tired of the crap spewing forth from the "holy rollers," TV, cults, various religions and on and on. People just say forget it and have nothing to do with any belief system whatsoever. It is a sad shame. But who is to blame? GOD? Again, we can blame something or someone else when in reality, the full blame and responsibility falls back onto the individual person.

Each person must seek GOD. It does not mean going through the various religions and other "man-made" crapola out on the market. It is a "self-adventure and exploration" to earnestly seek GOD and his approval. A lot of people have become to proud and consumed by everyday life and relationships to humble themselves and to FIRST seek GOD. And this process is a personal matter between the creation and the Creator. Many people do not realize this fact and want to split hairs and argue over it and all of the time still looking for answers and self-worth. It does not happen overnight and some people may go through a good portion of their natural life until that moment arrives and acceptance is given by GOD. Ready made, satisfiying, TRUTHFUL answers are not available for everyone. --And this is what most people want! It simply does not work that way. It never has. Someday, it will but only after other matters come to pass.

Also, I don't and never have made "excuses" for GOD or anything he decides to do or not do. Perhaps a pathetic attempt to explain (but who knows the mind of GOD?), but never any excuses. I know better. GOD does not need my help to explain himself on decisions, actions etc. I accept what I have experienced and what I KNOW to be true. I know the power of GOD and respect it.---enough about that subject......

It would be wrong to assume or to put me into any catagory or classification. I am a different sort of situation in many ways as my adventure is an on going reality and beyond what is known.

Your alright Danny! Keep plugging away as you will find what you are searching for. "Keep on asking and it will be given to you."

Mr. KIM

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Why don't faithful angels prove God's Universal Sovreignty

by joelbear in

so 1/3 of the angels followed satan, the majority stuck with god.

doesn't the existence of faithful angels prove god's right to universal sovereignty much more so than the actions of one human pair?

Mr. Kim

Dannybear,

Everything honest and true comes from the heart. This means true, honest feelings that only a GOD can read and know for sure. Mankind does in my opinion, have a few things to gripe about. but who am I or anyone else for that matter, to question or doubt GOD? Asking questions is justified to an extent. Is it really so bad to worship the supreme being when all is said and done, the reward is so great? The WTB&TS sure did a number on many people and turned them bitter against GOD. I am a little bitter and basicaly "PO" at the WTB&TS and the misfits that are running the place! But NOT GOD! I know it is a fine line on many issues and mankind have gotton spoiled by the "I want it NOW" type of attitude or the need to KNOW. Typical control from human kind which the WTB&TS does a super job in controlling the lives of the borgalites (made that word up).Now don't take anything the wrong way, ok? Danny, why not sincerely approach GOD in prayer and ask him the questions within your heart and mind and see what happens?Not talking to GOD is like not talking to your parents or spouse.--Problems exist that must be overcome. But first, humans must humble themselves before the LORD THY GOD. Not the other way around.

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Saint Satan,

What it is? You missed the last meeting. Show up for the briefing about future events next time. Can't cover for you forever. --- That would be a long time!

Anyway, I agree with your post. Good job.

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Gumby,

How you been? So, you want the secrets of GOD, huh? Why not ask him? Who among mankind right now, can claim the right to such knowledge? Your questions and desires are directed at GOD. Not me or anyone else. Can't help you on this one.

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Mr. KIM